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  Silent Witnesses: here it is!

  by ozziepost in

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  this weekend's "sunday" program on channel nine in australia features a report along the lines of dateline and panorama.

  just up on their site is the following report: .

  silent witnesses .

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  Golden Girl

  I sent them an E Mail. Hopefully they will reply with some info on the tape!

  GG
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  I "ATE" SOMEONE ELSE'S BLOOD

  by Francois in

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  three entire units of whole blood.

  i needed surgery quickly, badly, right now.

  i had bled out half my blood in a near-death accident, 'member?

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  Well with hubby having cancer..His Mom and sister have just taken over! They are all JW's and I seem to have no say in his treatment! NO BLOOD is all they are able to say. I think they are more worried aout that then they are him! I feel like I have aready lost him and he's still alive. They showed the tape about bloodless surgery yesterday and I found other things to do! Next week we are going to the Drs they picked out that do "Bloodless surgery"! They didn't like the Drs I had even though they agreed to go along with his decision. I hope that their Drs are good! I keep thinking they are inferior Drs because if they go along with no blood maybe they just need the patients! What a life ....I need a new one!

  They have been staying all night because they are so far away! This morning I got a lecture on how I shouldn't have gave hubby coffee (decaf)! He should only have green tea! Made me want to crawl out of the room!

  Golden Girl ...who isn't so golden today!

  Edited by - Golden Girl on 20 September 2002 12:23:13
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  BLOOD Transfusion CHANGES

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the golden age november 13th 1929 issue, pages 106, 107:.

  the golden age march 27th 1935 issue, page 409:.

  the golden age september 23rd 1936 issue, page 816:.

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  Golden Girl

  Hubby hasbeen diagnosed with cancer of the lung and liver. We were so confused when we first started out. He had no idea what his religion allowed. So I did all the research and thanks to "undisfellowshipped one" was able to put together a list ! His JW Mom and sister didn't even know the full list!

  Now have has found a surgeon and a oncologist that takes mostly JWs. They do bloodless surgery only! He feels much safer now. He is going to see them next week. He said his god is watching over him!

  I sure hope they are good doctors!

  Golden Girl...aka..Snoozy

  Edited by - Golden Girl on 19 September 2002 0:32:12
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  ?to attack or let go?

  by happysunshine in

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  do you think it is better to just live and let live with family that are witnesses, or will not confronting them with their beliefs come back to haunt you?

  -wondering

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  Since JW Hubby has been diagnosed wih terminal cancer...I let it go! Sometimes I really have to bite my tongue. Before..I would show him things I got off the computor and showed him in his own literature. Now it doesn't even matter anymore! Funny how some things become so insignificant when major things happen in your life!

  When his Mom and sister and him all gang up on me and tell me I really need to go back to the hall for his sake...Then I get upset! He sides with them and I feel so all alone. Just about that time one of my kids call and talk to me! That helps bring me back to my sanity!

  BTW...I had to fill out his JW DPA. They weren't even aware of all the blood fractions they were allowed to take!...Sad isn't it. They believe everything they are told without question. They are so quick to say"NO BLOOD"...and don't even know about all the "Conscience changes

  Golden Girl...aka...Snoozy
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  Thank you all so much!

  by Golden Girl in

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  i couldn't have made it through these last few days without you all!

  thanks for the great links and suggestions in my e mail!

  hubby went to have the porta-cath put in for chemo today and his blood had something elevated that keeps it from clotting.

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  Golden Girl

  To answer some of your questions:

  He is having the porta-cath put in so they can diectly administer the chemo to his main artery.They said it really tears the little veins up. After reading a bit I found out chemo damages the bloodcells! I can't believe all the things they can take! When he talked to the brothers..they were no help at al! They mentioned nothing about what they could take! Now him and his Mom want to talk to the laison committee and get the name of a dfferent Dr. They think the one he has is no good. He was telling them how difficult it is sometimes to hit the artery. I don't see either one of them making any phone calls..I guess they think I am going to do that!.I guess they want to accept a Dr that will willingly go along with no blood. I hope they don't get one like I had years ago.(Highly recomended by the witnesses) He was going to let me bleed to death until another Dr stepped in! Have any of you seen that Living wil thing the witnesses prodced? It s not very clear and I am sure it is designed so that the witnesses pick the easy aswer and say no to any blood fractions completely. It does give you a chance to say what you will accept! But how any f them really know? So they pick ..None!

  To finish up. Hubby s stage 4. It is in his right upper lung and a lot in his liver. He is jaundiced and I don't know if it is anywhere else. They have not done a full body scan. They found those two and quit. (I guess). They give no hope even with Chemo. They won't even suggest radiation. Maybe it is too spread out?

  We have an appointment tomorrow with the Oncologist.We will also discuss the safest chemo for a JW. I have a lot of questions for him. So I will probably be back on here tomorrow night!!!!

  have a lot more reading to do so I will be backlater. Now that Mother in Law from Hell is gone...

  Golden Girl...Snoozy

  Any other suggestions please feel free to post them! I need all the help I can get!
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  Thank you all so much!

  by Golden Girl in

  1. jw
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  i couldn't have made it through these last few days without you all!

  thanks for the great links and suggestions in my e mail!

  hubby went to have the porta-cath put in for chemo today and his blood had something elevated that keeps it from clotting.

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  This board has been so helpful! Thank you all aain! I have printed all the info from DJ and Undisfellowshiped. And thank all you others for yor support!. JW's are so stupid! They are so naive they just blindly follow! But boy can they sceam when they want to! Right or wrong!.They don't even care if they have their facts straight! We know more about their religion than they do!

  What do you want to betif I showed these aricles to his Mom and Sister and him..they woudn't even read them. And I don't have the magazines! I wonder if they would research them?

  Yeah sure they would. Then they would be shown up!

  Can you tell I've almost reached my limit?

  Golden Girl...aka Snoozy

  Edited to add update. Well hubby talked to one of the laison committee today. They confirmed most of what was on undisfellowshipped's list . I am making him take a copy to the Bible study tonight and have them look it over...I will cut some of it out so as not to be raising any suspicions.They told him one of them will be withhim Frdayfor te operation to talk to the Dr. He said they have had problems with this hospital trying to force blood!...Ah Gee! I doubt that! Too many won't take blood for other reasons today. They don't want to get sued.

  Thanks again..GG aka Snoozy

  Edited by - Golden Girl on 17 September 2002 20:1:30
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  Thank you all so much!

  by Golden Girl in

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  i couldn't have made it through these last few days without you all!

  thanks for the great links and suggestions in my e mail!

  hubby went to have the porta-cath put in for chemo today and his blood had something elevated that keeps it from clotting.

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  Golden Girl

  I couldn't have made it through these last few days without you all! Thanks for the great links and suggestions in my E Mail!

  Hubby went to have the porta-cath put in for Chemo today and his blood had something elevated that keeps it from clotting. The Dr mumbled something about it being the first to go!..Anyway..they put him on vitamin K and sent us home. My JW Mother in law from HELL..is leaving tomorrow

  His JW sister from HELL comes in Wednesday but someone else is picking her up. Then her and his Mom will be back here Thursday night..

  They are testing his blood again Thursday and if it is OK he will get the operation Friday A.M.

  Hubby keeps thanking me for being "Nice" to his Mom!

  It isn't easy when they huddle in the corner and talk about "Jehovah". I feel so left out! She gets him by himself with her a lot! I havn't even had 5 minutes alone wth him! They are making decisions about his diet without consulting me!..His sister said he should go on a sugar fast.. He was still taking the"Noni juice " that is supposed to "Cure Cacer" but the Dr said ...No more...It might be hurting your blood in some way.So he can resume it after the operation.He does and believes everything they say! His Mom had him reading one of the publications tonight. I have been feeding and shopping and arranging everthing while they huddle and talk.(About me being dissasociated I suppose)

  He talked to his surgeon the other day about being a witness..apparently the Dr. forgot!When he came in the pre-op room today he said he was going to give hubby some frozen plasma and vitamin K. I said "What?"...no he won't let you do that. He said "Why" I said "He is a JW"..the Dr just stormed out of the room. Seems this is a tricky operation. The vein he uses is a major artery under the collarbone. Hard to get to and risky for bleeding.He isn't too happy but said he will still do it. But had to postpone it longer.

  My fear is that if his blood is having problems now...what about when he start chemo? I hear it can cause bleeding. Well I wasn't going to talk medical..I need to post it in the medical section..sorry...

  But I still think it was funny that I had to help them fill our the DPA forms for the hospital. They knew nothing about their beliefs on blood fractions etc. I had to explain it to them!..I still wonder why they are witnesses when the don't even know what their religion believes.Like robots following a leader!

  I tried to sneak in a few puns about all the changes and the "personal decision" rules! I enjoyed that! Made my day! But I dread when they both come up together...I guess I will shrink into the corner again.

  Thanks again for your support and help!

  Golden Girl...aka...Snoozy

  PS..I just took the Mother in Law from HELL home! If I never see her again I will be happy. She asked me if I was feeling bad...I almost laughed thinking ...relief was so near ..and then we left to go home!!

  I will never go to her house again! Nobody deserves to be treated that way!

  Edited by - Golden Girl on 17 September 2002 14:49:38
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  We visited the assembly hall today!

  by Golden Girl in

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  continued from my post about hubby having cancer.

  we talked to the dr that is going to install his porta vein for the chemo he is going to get.he mentioned special papers he will have to sign because of the "no blood".

  well hubby freaked out.

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  Thank you so much for your support! It has helped me more than you can know!

  His JW Mom is staying with us for a while and his JW sister will be here Wednesday.

  They are pushing so hard for me to go! Hs mom even bougt me a outfit to wear to the hall for today! I still refused. The only way I will go is if he is weak and needs my help!.

  Reading your posts gave me the strengh I needed for a while! I will be back!...I can't get on the comp. to much as they will always be around me! .

  Hubby is scheduled to have the porta cath put in his chest tomorrw. Wednesday we meet with the oncologist to discuss what chemo combo he is using. And Thursday he will get his first dose.I am so afraid..and so alone.

  I have 3 children that are grown and they really help. But you are still so all alone when someting like this happens!

  My love to all..Thank you so much for your support! I will update when I can..

  Golden Girl...aka...Snoozy
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  We visited the assembly hall today!

  by Golden Girl in

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  continued from my post about hubby having cancer.

  we talked to the dr that is going to install his porta vein for the chemo he is going to get.he mentioned special papers he will have to sign because of the "no blood".

  well hubby freaked out.

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  Continued from my post about Hubby having cancer.

  We talked to the Dr that is going to install his porta vein for the chemo he is going to get.He mentioned special papers he will have to sign because of the "No Blood".

  Well hubby freaked out. He called the JW laison committee and they were working at he assembley hall around the corner from us. Well I decided to go with him and find out what would happen if I went with him to the meetings to help him.They wouldn't give me an answer. They said the "Brothers" at his hall would have to talk to me.

  Then Hubby confessed that his Mom and Sister already talked to the 'Brothers" and they said I would have to sit in back...come in after the song started..but relatives could sit by me! I am disassociated.

  Well..getting back to the assembly hall..they were so stuck up to us when we first got there and after we started talking..they realized we knew "certain people"from a long time ago and got all friendly!

  I couldn't stand it. It all started to come back to me! All the haughtiness ...The I'm God attitude!.I wanted to run out or start telling them how awful their religion was!

  Hubby wanted to show off the assembley hall to me . He was so proud of it. I was afraid he was going to strap me to a chair! He had tears in his eyes ..he was so happy to have me there!

  Then I broke his heart!I told him I couldn't fake it! I would take him if he got weak from chemo but I couldn't believe like he did. He started to really cry and said I was killing him!

  He wanted some hope that we would be together again someday if he didn't make it through this cancer! Because I made him sad it affects his fighting the cancer!...It isn't fair!

  I am still wondering what to do...I love him so...But would he be satisfied with me just being there or would he start to expect me to try and come back?

  Too much to think about...too much .

  I can't wait to see his Chemo Dr Wednesday and find out about support groups. I need one bad!

  Golden Girl...aka ..Snoozy

  ps...his JW mother and Jw sister will be staying with us during his first time with the treatments!

  I will be put on a big time guilt trip!They have also sent him some juice that is called Noni juice that is supposed to "Cure Cancer". I don't believe it but he does!

  He believes the JW's have the "Truth" because his Mom and sister and Dad were one. He believes this juice will cure his cancer because his Mom and sister said it will!.I can't argue with him about it because then he won't have any hope!I read that mind over matter can cure many things...so I am going to keep my mouth shut from now on! If he believes a marshmellow can cure him...so be it!

  Golden Girl..aka Snoozy...Who hopes she never has to step inside a KH again!

  And they told him to go to the KH Sunday and get a DPA form . It is a Durable Power of Attorney for when he gets the porta vein put in. This assures him they won't use blood!

  Edited by - Golden Girl on 14 September 2002 1:51:32
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  Hubby has Cancer.........

  by Golden Girl in

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  and my heart is breaking!..we just had it confirmed today.

  he has 9 months to live so they say.

  among all the heartbreak and pain he is crying and begging me to go to the kingdom hall with him.

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  Thank you for your continued support! He starts his chemo Thursday. They are putting in the porta vein first Monday. He will be getting 3 hours of chemo once a week.For now.

  Patio your discription of stages are also what I found.

  I forget who recommended the book about 50 ways..but I am ordering it! Thank you!

  I started a new post about my visit to the assembly hall today!

  Golden Girl...aka ...Snoozy

  Thank you all again..each post has a special place in my heart!